TranscriptWe, well we tried to do lessons. As I said it was only if you made a mistake, she used to bring the ruler down across your knuckles and that, and that ruler hurt! It really hurt, you know. I'll never forget the last day she done it I got hold of the ruler and snapped it, I said 'Now take it,' I says 'you won't hit anybody else with that.' She looked at me, I bet she could have killed me. I was waiting for her to tell my mum but she never did, I don't know why. Because I s'pose she would have told my mum and my mum would have told her off.